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  • NilremNilrem
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.

    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    SherriPolicroma
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.

    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    This thread was aimed at a specific person, and centered around a specific moment in time. There is nothing random about it.

  • NilremNilrem
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.

    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    This thread was aimed at a specific person, and centered around a specific moment in time. There is nothing random about it.

    Random? Look. Perhaps I need to be more information heavy on you.

    OP? I know him in game. Troublemaker mentioned? Also know him in game.
    You literally can't be a jerk in Tarlach without 80% of the server knowing.

    Just hop on for story time and save everyone the trouble.
    Sherri
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Liyeta wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Liyeta wrote: »
    -insert psychobabble here-
    I do believe I said, "Neither was I."
    TheDumbOne wrote: »
    doesnt matter who started it, or who ended it.
    - if someone blocks you, and you continue to send them notes then you are harassing them.
    -unless their sending you notes back that isn't "stop noting me or ill have to report you" which doesn't sound like the case.

    To be honest they need to fix note sending so you cant message people you blocked or got blocked from can message you.
    The problem with this equation is the person being blocked gets no notification of this (unless the person blocking them says something). If they don't know you blocked them, it's not really fair to report them for "talking to the great almighty you". ~ There's two sides to this story.

    So you should know how to act accordingly instead of making a clown out of yourself.

    Really if you want to know the full story then making a scene here is not necessary.

    Go to tarlach, find the person, and ss your convo with the said person here.
    You clearly don't know how to read English (or something).
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.

    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.

    ↑ This is literally saying there is another side of the story they would rather not talk about here.
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Random? Look. Perhaps I need to be more information heavy on you.

    OP? I know him in game. Troublemaker mentioned? Also know him in game.
    You literally can't be a jerk in Tarlach without 80% of the server knowing.

    Just hop on for story time and save everyone the trouble.

  • ParadoxLostParadoxLost
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.

    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.

    Nilrem gettin spicy
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.

    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    This thread was aimed at a specific person, and centered around a specific moment in time. There is nothing random about it.

    Funny you say that, cuz i havent been consistently online in game for about a month. So no this wasnt centered around a specific time. And not any specific person either. People..shore, but not any single person.

    Edit: theres a full server of stories about this. Thats why i brought it up.

    Edit2: hell there's a whooole half the world that can you tell you stories about similar incidents all over the internet.
    Sherri
  • SherriSherri
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.

    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    This thread was aimed at a specific person, and centered around a specific moment in time. There is nothing random about it.

    No, it was not.
    You are only thinking that way.
    Did you even read my post or the many posts replying the same thing?
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.
    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    ↑ This double-talk is literally saying there is another side of the story you would rather not talk about.

  • ParadoxLostParadoxLost
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.
    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    ↑ This double-talk is literally saying there is another side of the story you would rather not talk about.

    Get the heck out of here..stop trying and succeeding in derailing the discussion..there is no double talk there. She is literally inviting you to ask her all about it.
    Sherri
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.
    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    ↑ This double-talk is literally saying there is another side of the story you would rather not talk about.

    Get the heck out of here..stop trying and succeeding in derailing the discussion..there is no double talk there. She is literally inviting you to ask her all about it.
    You don't have the right to dictate who can or cannot post in this forum. ~ and I'm as much on topic as you or anyone else here is. Nilrem already admitted to knowing you in game; completely eliminating any theory of whether or not this was "random". They are more than "pretty sure" they know who you're talking about.


  • NilremNilrem
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.
    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    ↑ This double-talk is literally saying you want to actually follow the forum rules.

    Fixed that for you.
    Also I literally cannot mention anything about this troublemaker, as even the slightest important detail will make it so obvious that it might as well be name dropping. Which is also against forum rules. Hence why I want to just pass the information in game.
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem already admitted to knowing you in game.

    Look Sherlock. I'm going to be blunt. Half the population of Tarlach/Anyone in Tarlach that has ever been to Tir knows OP.

    He was often seen afk next to the tailoring station.
    Sherri
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Also I literally cannot mention anything about this troublemaker, as even the slightest important detail will make it so obvious that it might as well be name dropping. Which is also against forum rules. Hence why I want to just pass the information in game.
    That's not what i called double-talk (what's the matter with you people). You said it's not about a specific person (it's "random"). You stood up for the "randomness of this thread", and then immediately after, you implied not wanting to divulge into details about the specific person this is in fact about. So tell me another fairy tale.

  • ParadoxLostParadoxLost
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.
    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    ↑ This double-talk is literally saying there is another side of the story you would rather not talk about.

    You just dont understand..you could ask anyone in tarach..you could ask anyone in the world. And 90% of them can point out one bully or another. It just so happens that its happening here in this community and it shouldnt be. Tarlach is small. Its more concentrated. You need to stop. You're hiding behind a screen and defending people that hurt people for laughs. At this point you are exact proof of what this discussion was meant to be about.
    SherriChibiMegu
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.
    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    ↑ This double-talk is literally saying there is another side of the story you would rather not talk about.

    You just dont understand..you could ask anyone in tarach..you could ask anyone in the world. And 90% of them can point out one bully or another. It just so happens that its happening here in this community and it shouldnt be. Tarlach is small. Its more concentrated. You need to stop. You're hiding behind a screen and defending people that hurt people for laughs. At this point you are exact proof of what this discussion was meant to be about.
    You said it's not about a specific person. Nilrem suggests that it is. Whose lying?


  • NilremNilrem
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.
    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    ↑ This double-talk is literally saying there is another side of the story you would rather not talk about.

    You just dont understand..you could ask anyone in tarach..you could ask anyone in the world. And 90% of them can point out one bully or another. It just so happens that its happening here in this community and it shouldnt be. Tarlach is small. Its more concentrated. You need to stop. You're hiding behind a screen and defending people that hurt people for laughs. At this point you are exact proof of what this discussion was meant to be about.
    You said it's not about a specific person. Nilrem suggests that it is. Whose lying?


    Neither actually. I know that sounds confusing, but this is another part of why I can't mention anything.

    This is also sort of why I want you to just message me in game for the full story, mostly about who this troublemaker in question is.
  • ParadoxLostParadoxLost
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.
    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    ↑ This double-talk is literally saying there is another side of the story you would rather not talk about.

    You just dont understand..you could ask anyone in tarach..you could ask anyone in the world. And 90% of them can point out one bully or another. It just so happens that its happening here in this community and it shouldnt be. Tarlach is small. Its more concentrated. You need to stop. You're hiding behind a screen and defending people that hurt people for laughs. At this point you are exact proof of what this discussion was meant to be about.
    You said it's not about a specific person. Nilrem suggests that it is. Whose lying?


    You're not listening. Its only a small number of people in tarlach. You would have to be blind to not see who is doing what. She said this. She said she could point out multiple people. Which we have all insinuated from the beginning. You are literally the only person that thinks it is one person.
  • TheDumbOneTheDumbOne
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    plus your not on topic... the topic is how to re
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Also I literally cannot mention anything about this troublemaker, as even the slightest important detail will make it so obvious that it might as well be name dropping. Which is also against forum rules. Hence why I want to just pass the information in game.
    That's not what i called double-talk (what's the matter with you people). You said it's not about a specific person (it's "random"). You stood up for the "randomness of this thread", and then immediately after, you implied not wanting to divulge into details about the specific person this is in fact about. So tell me another fairy tale.

    im not standing up for anyone. i simply stayed on topic, which was "My question to the community is what do you do? When blacklisting doesnt block notes and reporting will only get them a temporary ban at most, how do you handle the grief and disrespect and keep it from bothering you too much? Do you stand up for the person being attacked or do you keep your head down and walk away?"

    My answer was simply that if your getting notes after you blacklisted them, then you can report it. :T
    If Paradox ended up harassing someone they black listed or black listed them, then thats when paradox is most likely able to get reported. +++No matter who started it.+++
    Your issue is your still stuck on a much smaller picture. which is "whose this person?" and "did you start it?"
    Ataraxiz
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    There's two sides to every story.

    Look, if knowing what happened is REALLY THAT IMPORTANT to you, make an alt, jump on Tarlach, and ask around.
    No really, ask around. Channel 7. Could even find me if you want.
    Believe me, this isn't the 2 sided story your little imagination is thinking up.
    I would say more, but I would rather be CIVIL and NOT DROP NAMES.
    ↑ This double-talk is literally saying there is another side of the story you would rather not talk about.

    You just dont understand..you could ask anyone in tarach..you could ask anyone in the world. And 90% of them can point out one bully or another. It just so happens that its happening here in this community and it shouldnt be. Tarlach is small. Its more concentrated. You need to stop. You're hiding behind a screen and defending people that hurt people for laughs. At this point you are exact proof of what this discussion was meant to be about.
    You said it's not about a specific person. Nilrem suggests that it is. Whose lying?


    You're not listening. Its only a small number of people in tarlach. You would have to be blind to not see who is doing what. She said this. She said she could point out multiple people. Which we have all insinuated from the beginning. You are literally the only person that thinks it is one person.
    It's clear you're not reading other posts. You should do that. -- It's also clear there is more than one side to this story.

    Whether or not the other side of the story is told here tonight is irrelevant ... -- There still is one.



  • NilremNilrem
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Whether or not the other side of the story is told here tonight is irrelevant ... -- There still is one.

    If you just jumped into the game from the start I could have told you the entire story by now.
    I'm not joking. It really could have been that simple.

    Instead of solving the problem, the one you made but you won't ever view it that way because protagonist syndrome, you just continue in an endless cycle of accusations.

    I came back to this thread to help you and clear up misinformation forming in your mind.
    Apparently you can't even work with that. So I shall take my leave.
    Sherri
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Whether or not the other side of the story is told here tonight is irrelevant ... -- There still is one.

    If you just jumped into the game from the start I could have told you the entire story by now.
    I'm not joking. It really could have been that simple.

    Instead of solving the problem, the one you made but you won't ever view it that way because protagonist syndrome, you just continue in an endless cycle of accusations.

    I came back to this thread to help you and clear up misinformation forming in your mind.
    Apparently you can't even work with that. So I shall take my leave.
    I made it my own by asserting it takes more than one person to argue? or you made it mine by proving it?


  • ParadoxLostParadoxLost
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Whether or not the other side of the story is told here tonight is irrelevant ... -- There still is one.

    If you just jumped into the game from the start I could have told you the entire story by now.
    I'm not joking. It really could have been that simple.

    Instead of solving the problem, the one you made but you won't ever view it that way because protagonist syndrome, you just continue in an endless cycle of accusations.

    I came back to this thread to help you and clear up misinformation forming in your mind.
    Apparently you can't even work with that. So I shall take my leave.
    I made it my own by asserting it takes more than one person to argue? or you made it mine by proving it?


    You did indeed prove it takes two people to argue. I see that now very clearly. Congrats. Now go argue by yourself because as far as I'm concerned and i think most can agree with me. We are done helping you prove your own points.
    Sherri
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