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Closed General Respect/Handling Grief
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even if you both argued, if Nilrem black listed you in mabi, and you continued to message them, they still have the abillity to report you
the forum of course is different. so even though you proved that it takes two to argue. it takes 1 person to END a argument.
[edit] which is a much more effective method
[second edit] i also said someone can walk up to you and just spout w/e they wanted and black listed you without you saying anything. and they could still send a ticket reporting you, if you messaged them after them telling you not to message them.
thats why i dont believe arguing matters....
the person didnt know, they said everything BUT sending a ticket. thats why i clarified. - thats why this post exists.. even if its a real argument, the issue of the post is "what do i do about it" and the person name wasnt mentioned. you dont say "send a ticket and take the post down". its clear written post without names, about how to solve an issue they didnt know how.
its "touchy" but its irrelevant.
Logged in seeing 70 unread posts, had to prepare this gif asap before entering this lol.
My advice; if a person who you have been in an argument is sending vile notes, do not hesitate to screenshot and send a ticket.
Many have said this before but it's what you should do if it escalates to that.
It may work, just do not put faith in it. In the first place, I find it better to avoid.
Jeez, I never took this thread as being sided at all. It merely mentioned harassment, but made no mention to the In Game Names, but as a general discussion on how to handle such a concern, which does happen, mind you. Does. It is more akin to a hypothetical than any on sided self defense presented.
Let's just make a better blacklisting system.
My best advice to anyone going through this: Be sure you screenshot anything via MABINOGI and even take a video of it through Mabi. They will not check screenies from other programs. They'll just mark your case closed wether valuable evidence or not (this happened too me).
If harassment continues, just ignore it. Screenshot, move on. You have better things to take care of rather than focus solely on this or leave the game because of it.
In truth: This game was made for enjoyment, and it's really up to you if you let this stop you from enjoying the game. If it's really a big deal to you and it outweighs your love for this game, be my guest and let if affect how you socialize or if you continue socializing; that's your honest opinion/decision. But, if you ignore it and move on and not talk about it, you can go back to your life.
Piece of advice: If you completely ignore something and continue living your life, you are untouchable by trolls or rude people. Don't let someone else defy your love for this game and it's community.
I'm actually allowed to post on any thread as long as the last comment does not exceed a month's time OuO . I felt like something should be said, so I said it. The initial situation may have been about a specific person or group, however my post is directed towards those who actually have no idea how to handle a similar situation. VFMs handled the issue in the initial post, so it really doesn't matter if I post, given mine is about a general-calling. It's also not necro-bumping or generally bumping since my comment has something relevant to the topic - whether anyone feels like I should have said anything or not.
Harassment happens somewhere ingame everyday. Not to mention, it causes a lot of people to be overly stressed/depressed if they're unsure how to handle the situation. Since this is something I have a personal experience in, I feel like my two-cents was fine to be given considering the situation I'm in hasn't had action taken by Nexon at all. This is just a wake-up call to those who are in the same position as this:
"You don't need to quit the game or ignite a situation further just because Nexon doesn't take action. Just ignore it, move on, if it continues oh well, it won't matter in the long run. If other people stick their noses in the wrong place that's their fault. Don't worry about it."
Given how I haven't posted on this thread and my comment was civil and on-topic, I kindly disagree that my comment was against any rules and was simply advice to those who have no idea on how to handle a situation similar to this
Tacking on to this: Anyone's advice or opinion is valuable to situations like this. If someone really needed help, my comment or anyone's comment could help someone through a situation without needing to make a post themselves. Therefore, I do not regret making a post since I offered Intel on things that could help their case or advice to get them through their situation. It might be "beating a dead horse" in some eyes, however, my comment did not purse any threats or rule-breaking, and the initial problem (OP posted a name or something that was removed) was taken care of. Therefore, I did not "beat a dead horse" due to my comment offering advice and it corresponded to the topic that the post was initially made about. ^~^
You talk about knowing what it's like and "understanding", but that doesn't appear to be true.
I'm actually standing up for myself because I haven't commented here and I felt like you were denying that right even though OP broke the rules (to which I actually had nothing to do with) - I haven't had time to comment on much for a week and I have experience in this particular field, so I wanted to give my advice.
Sorry for "taking it out of context", but I thought you were referring to bumping (meaning the thread was too old or inactive to comment in). The thread was on the first page, and I felt like I could comment so I did.
I didn't refer to anything that OP said besides advice on how to deal with harassment - to which I will repeat - and I will add I have nothing to do with that situation:
If someone harasses you and nothing is done, move on, focus on what really matters - because it is doubtful it will come up again in the long run. If it does, continue to be happy and have fun in the game - which is it's initial purpose.
I didn't know this - as you can tell by my initial post. I had nothing to do with this situation and my advice was directed at those who have experienced harassment, not the OP directly.
I care about those people who need this advice and therefore I made my experience known without giving any details. Whether you think I've actually experienced this or not (you've actually seen this happen) - that is not the point of my post. My post is about what to do or feel if a situation happens. It's merely related to the topic, not directly involved.
Besides, if it becomes an actual problem: Those in charge can simply read the hidden stealth-edits and delete the topic of their own free will. - - - Thanks for your tips,
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Edit: And of course a few minutes later I joyfully point this out:
You can't really hide stealth edits from someone who actually has more web experience than you claim to have. Also, I don't need to save HTML the old-fashioned way, browser extensions exist now that do it in a much cleaner more technologically advanced, contractually questionable way xD
You were not defending yourself against anything in this thread. ~ Reading it will help you comprehend it better. You are part of the equation.
No matter how many people like what you post, or how many posts you like. This thread's purpose is the same.