Zeo

Some people already know this but the max damage formula for Chainslash have been confirmed to be (Dex/2.5)+(Luck/3)=MAX.

Also seem like they intentionally added in the 15% damage boost for giants' Ladeca skill toward Chainslash so it's not an oversight.

(info about Ladeca buff for giants can be found here)

So I was doing one-player Grandmaster mission to collect seals for Battle Alchemist and I came across this. We have been lied to, Dorren is actually a man!!

1.) What do U usually spend ur gold stockpile on?
Usually outfits and wings but sometime I save up gold for stuffs like gear and enchants.
2.) How often Do U spend ducats?(Or what do U buy/use em on? Fomor equips? Repairs?)
Never, they're basically forgotten by me.
3.) Do U prefer getting things from the cash shop directly or trading Ingame gold for them?
If I can buy them directly from cash shop then I'd do it but if it's something like gachapon, I'm not going to spend $100+ in hope of getting what I want so I just buy from other players.
4.) Do U have a spending cap when going around PS shopping 4 items?(5m/10m/20m/etc)
Not really, no.
5.) Last but not least...Do U prefer to generate ur own gold income(SM/Dungeons/etc) or do U afk and just merch?
Mainly merchant as I stockpile on junks from gachapons, events, etc... that may become valuable after a while or I may get some good loots from dungeons to sell for decent gold.

TheGreatCalistarius wrote: »

@Zeo - True! It's late and had forgotten about DL. So assuming the Giant did everything I mentioned, plus divine linking, while they're in ladeca they would indeed have more max for that particular skillset. I will still say though, it's not practical for the Giant to do everything mentioned, just to be able to have roughly 30 more max than an Elf in that particular skillset, especially with them missing out on Str doing this, arguably a Giant's main stat. I don't think they'd be able to cap Str outside of Talent, while not using a Str cater. Maybe with ES, not going to research it, if I'm wrong lemme know!

And Elves on the other hand will have their very similar max, along with having their main stat capped out. I just don't think it's worth it for the Giant to invest so much into it, while losing out on other skill sets. If you're only ever using one skill set, you're not doing it right.

Mmm, I see... so they do still outdamage the elves and depending on what % damage for some Chainslash skills they have... the 30 more max damage from the giants will be more noticeable because of the multiplier and even more noticeable when you use red upgrade on those weapons.. so I'm still pretty ticked about that, to be honest, haha.

But you do have a good point that giants probably won't be maining the Chainslash but if we are going to include the Strength in the account for giants... I have been doing some thinking and well.. if you put in the account of GMing all talents, they'd also get more Strength compared to before and they also get some Strength from Eweca skill and I'd assume giants get some strength naturally from leveling up too, with talent or not... and if you includes divine-linking your pet, the giant should almost be able to cap their Strength along with Dex so...

Lets do some math... assuming elves get the max of 931 with all the stats while giants get (roughly) 961 with all the stats PLUS Ladeca skill on...

Lets say one of the chainslash skillsets do 1000% damage at r1.

1000% x 931 would be equal to 9310 while 1000% x 961 would be equal to 9610.

Now... just having r1 critical hit would do 2.5x more damage everytime you crit plus level 50 Yvona renown to add 10% more crit and maybe step7 red upgrade which add in.. lets say maybe 75% for the chainslash weapon... so 3.35x crit.

For elves... 9310 x 3.35 = 31188.5
For giants... 9610 x 3.35 = 32193.5

That's more than 1k difference of damage...

Now, let's factor the BFO and bone dragon chip (or weapon power potion) with those damage... I'll use... lets say... 40% BFO and the bone dragon chip increases the damage by 50%.

For elves... 31188.5 x BFO 40% = 43663.9
For giants... 32193.5 x BFO 40% = 45070.9
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For elves... 43663.9 w/ Bone Dragon Chip or Weapon Power Potion = 65495.85
For giants... 45070.9 w/ Bone Dragon Chip or Weapon Power Potion = 67606.35

So... yeah, there you go... 2k difference between the elves and giants in term of Chainslash damage... and I'm not sure if we'll get reforge stuffs for chainslash and if they'd add in more damage multipler or not but they'll be the factor in making giants end up doing more damage too if we do end up getting reforges that increase the damage multiplier for Chainslash skills ... of course, that is assuming the max damage formula for Chainslash is 2.5 dex per 1 max and 4 luck per 1 max so...

Arjune wrote: »

you gotta keep in mind they haven;t done an elf combat renewal yet and it's still a possibility

Yes, that is very true and I do hope you're right because it was really needed...

SirRyu wrote: »

Elves really have gotten the worst part of each update for awhile, then when a skillset comes out that they are actually the best at, giants get another buff to push them ontop, this has been an on going thing and it's kinda starting to get ridiculous.

Heck! Us humans only got a 5% speed boost with out ladeca skill, giants had a respectable 10% which has been buffed twice since then, that seems kinda messed up to me.

I was all for the giant revamp to make them shine, but they passed up equality a few miles back.

Was going to say more in response to the recent post but @SirRyu pretty much hit it right in the spot.

The Chainslash skillset only made it so elves are on par because they DO NOT have any dual-stats skillset they get most benefit with while giants get Ninja and Gunslinger (they'd be just missing out on archery and chainslash) while we elves are missing out on melee, fighter, gunslinger, and ninja due to the lack of stats needed for it. Gants are also best with melee and fighter (in term of racial benefit) while we elves... well, we all have is those archery.

With the buff giants got via Ladeca, it made the things worse because giants get another skillset they're best with yet again... as they are now and elves (along with humans) end up getting the short end of stick once again.