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General Respect/Handling Grief

ParadoxLostParadoxLost
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edited August 28, 2017 in General Chat
So recently (last month or so) there's been a couple incidents in Tarlach of certain unnamed people verbally attacking others. One particular incident involves one well known -removed- of a player coming up to another and calling them a specific name knowing exactly how it would effect the other. I'm not exactly innocent of grieving myself and i take responsibility to that. My question to the community is what do you do? When blacklisting doesnt block notes and reporting will only get them a temporary ban at most, how do you handle the grief and disrespect and keep it from bothering you too much? Do you stand up for the person being attacked or do you keep your head down and walk away?

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  • SugarAngelSugarAngel
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    edited August 28, 2017
    If you show proof of consistent harassment, and continually reporting them to Nexon, eventually it will lead to a permanent ban, especially since the other party has likely told them to stop, however, if both attack one another, it doesn't matter, you're both at fault.

    My advice, just keep reporting them. If they really desire to torture someone that much, Nexon will be glad to do justice. As for the intervention part .. If you can stand up for them in a civil way, do it. If you can't, you might just have to watch. There isn't a lot to do, especially with a strict ToS.
    ParadoxLostHardmuscleAtaraxizMariangelica
  • foussiremixfoussiremix
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    I would directly talk to person and ask them why they do this and cause them to think about what they just did.

    Confronting the rude person and pointing out their behaviour is better than doing nothing.
    It can work miracles.
    ParadoxLostHardmuscle
  • NilremNilrem
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    Well, since I am also on Tarlach, I have a fair idea of who you are talking about.

    I say just collect proof of the harassment and throw it towards reports.
    Just try to help you and your friend keep under control during such.

    As stated above, if both sides appear at fault, the report could do nothing or even backfire.

    As for how I handle things, well I honestly just don't care about such.
    Most people who do this get their kicks out of reactions or some other pointless feeling.
    So don't react and don't respond. Take away their fun.
    And if they continue to cause harassment outside of chat? Even easier to report them.
    badnewsbarrettParadoxLostHardmuscleTheNyanCatSherri
  • badnewsbarrettbadnewsbarrett
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    I'm on Tarlach and this is the first I've heard of this but it kinda makes me glad I'm not really playing right now >.>;

    But I agree with what's being said above. Just keep taking screenshots and reporting them. If you have any friends around or so that are seeing it happen as well, see if maybe they'll take screenshots and send in reports too. You can stand up for that person, but don't get too heated, because then you're just as guilty in Nexon's eyes and you can be reported back.

    If it's someone else who's being abused, maybe try to make friends with them and do things with them in game. Maybe if the attackers see them with large groups of people, they'll back off. If you see the harassment starting, just keep taking screenshots and don't even respond; just go quiet in the chat or even switch to another channel if you can. If the harassment is through Notes as well, open them and take screenshots and close them right away, don't respond, possibly keep them for further documentation if that's ever needed. Either that or just don't even open them at all, maybe even delete them if it's too much.
    ParadoxLostHardmuscle
  • LiyetaLiyeta
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    A few temp ban will lead to perm ban. Keep your head cool and report the person everytime they say something mean or worthy of a ban.
    ParadoxLostHardmuscle
  • SherriSherri
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    edited August 28, 2017
    I'm not the kind to get into drama. I love to watch it from afar though. Quality entertainment. :)
    However, if it's a friend who is getting bullied, nobody gets away with it.







    Mari is a breeding ground for drama. Trust me.
    ParadoxLostGretaNekoLilyHardmuscleTheNyanCatKazuhanoriAtaraxiz
  • RheyRhey
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    Not much else. I'd say just leave for a month or two and come back.
    HardmuscleKazuhanori
  • BuffalosBuffalos
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    I think my time spent in Maplestory's absolute train-wreck of a community back in the late 2000's sorta trained me to ignore things like that to a rather large extent, but there's a limit to what I ignore towards myself. If I see it's bugging someone else who I know has done no provocation I'll report it, but such circumstances are very rare as a lot of the abuse I've seen is two sided.

    Document everything you can from both sides and start a file that you can just submit and continue to amend through ticket notes. The more complete and compelling your case is, the more likely they are to act on the first report.
    HardmuscleParadoxLostSherri
  • ForgetmenotForgetmenot
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    Don't let someone else's opinion of you and your friends become your reality. Especially someone hiding behind a screen.
    HardmuscleParadoxLostSherri
  • TheDumbOneTheDumbOne
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    everyone in mabi has the ability to send a ticket if they have no preventable methods to keep a person a way.
    including reporting, sending a ticket, and black listing.

    If these options (which are pretty much the only options) aren't working for you, then you always have the right to leave the game.
    (no reason for someone to play a game that has a lack of care for evidence harassment.)

    But yeah send a ticket. - thats one of the options "others" didnt do. it happen plenty before and once someone sends a ticket to staff i never hear about it again. (which is much different then in game reporting)
    HardmuscleParadoxLost
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 29, 2017
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

  • badnewsbarrettbadnewsbarrett
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

    I agree it takes two people to argue, but it only takes one person to be nasty and attack someone for really no good reason; I've had it happen to me before because some random guy asked me out and I said no, and he felt the need to call me names I can't repeat here before blocking me. I've seen it happen to my friends who have been yelled at for not selling items at lower prices/not selling to people at all. But just because you don't know both sides of the story doesn't mean you should stand by and let bullying happen. If you see someone being attacked, then yes, as a bystander, you have the right to make a report, even if they don't know both sides.
    ParadoxLostSherriTheDumbOne
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

    I agree it takes two people to argue, but it only takes one person to be nasty and attack someone for really no good reason; I've had it happen to me before because some random guy asked me out and I said no, and he felt the need to call me names I can't repeat here before blocking me. I've seen it happen to my friends who have been yelled at for not selling items at lower prices/not selling to people at all. But just because you don't know both sides of the story doesn't mean you should stand by and let bullying happen. If you see someone being attacked, then yes, as a bystander, you have the right to make a report, even if they don't know both sides.
    That's not what I'm saying at all. ~ More often than not; both sides are equally at fault (if one person can know who the op is referring to; what makes you think the person they're referencing doesn't see it too? - hence fanning the flames; aka trolling). You're the only person in control of your emotions. No one decides when you won't react, when you will react, or when you'll overreact. No one but you.


  • LiyetaLiyeta
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

    I agree it takes two people to argue, but it only takes one person to be nasty and attack someone for really no good reason; I've had it happen to me before because some random guy asked me out and I said no, and he felt the need to call me names I can't repeat here before blocking me. I've seen it happen to my friends who have been yelled at for not selling items at lower prices/not selling to people at all. But just because you don't know both sides of the story doesn't mean you should stand by and let bullying happen. If you see someone being attacked, then yes, as a bystander, you have the right to make a report, even if they don't know both sides.
    That's not what I'm saying at all. ~ More often than not; both sides are equally at fault (if one person can know who the op is referring to; what makes you think the person they're referencing doesn't see it too? - hence fanning the flames; aka trolling). You're the only person in control of your emotions. No one decides when you won't react, when you will react, or when you'll overreact. No one but you.

    Nilrem wrote: »
    Well, since I am also on Tarlach, I have a fair idea of who you are talking about.

    I say just collect proof of the harassment and throw it towards reports.
    Just try to help you and your friend keep under control during such.

    As stated above, if both sides appear at fault, the report could do nothing or even backfire.

    As for how I handle things, well I honestly just don't care about such.
    Most people who do this get their kicks out of reactions or some other pointless feeling.
    So don't react and don't respond. Take away their fun.
    And if they continue to cause harassment outside of chat? Even easier to report them.

    I think its the not very often case.
    Since the person said is quite well known for doing so.
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Liyeta wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

    I agree it takes two people to argue, but it only takes one person to be nasty and attack someone for really no good reason; I've had it happen to me before because some random guy asked me out and I said no, and he felt the need to call me names I can't repeat here before blocking me. I've seen it happen to my friends who have been yelled at for not selling items at lower prices/not selling to people at all. But just because you don't know both sides of the story doesn't mean you should stand by and let bullying happen. If you see someone being attacked, then yes, as a bystander, you have the right to make a report, even if they don't know both sides.
    That's not what I'm saying at all. ~ More often than not; both sides are equally at fault (if one person can know who the op is referring to; what makes you think the person they're referencing doesn't see it too? - hence fanning the flames; aka trolling). You're the only person in control of your emotions. No one decides when you won't react, when you will react, or when you'll overreact. No one but you.

    Nilrem wrote: »
    Well, since I am also on Tarlach, I have a fair idea of who you are talking about.

    I say just collect proof of the harassment and throw it towards reports.
    Just try to help you and your friend keep under control during such.

    As stated above, if both sides appear at fault, the report could do nothing or even backfire.

    As for how I handle things, well I honestly just don't care about such.
    Most people who do this get their kicks out of reactions or some other pointless feeling.
    So don't react and don't respond. Take away their fun.
    And if they continue to cause harassment outside of chat? Even easier to report them.
    I think its the not very often case.
    Since the person said is quite well known for doing so.
    It doesn't matter if that person is Jesus Christ. This thread is a violation of the forum rules (user harassment).

    It's a violation because you all acknowledge the person (target) being harassed as someone other than the op.


  • IyasenuIyasenu
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Liyeta wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

    I agree it takes two people to argue, but it only takes one person to be nasty and attack someone for really no good reason; I've had it happen to me before because some random guy asked me out and I said no, and he felt the need to call me names I can't repeat here before blocking me. I've seen it happen to my friends who have been yelled at for not selling items at lower prices/not selling to people at all. But just because you don't know both sides of the story doesn't mean you should stand by and let bullying happen. If you see someone being attacked, then yes, as a bystander, you have the right to make a report, even if they don't know both sides.
    That's not what I'm saying at all. ~ More often than not; both sides are equally at fault (if one person can know who the op is referring to; what makes you think the person they're referencing doesn't see it too? - hence fanning the flames; aka trolling). You're the only person in control of your emotions. No one decides when you won't react, when you will react, or when you'll overreact. No one but you.

    Nilrem wrote: »
    Well, since I am also on Tarlach, I have a fair idea of who you are talking about.

    I say just collect proof of the harassment and throw it towards reports.
    Just try to help you and your friend keep under control during such.

    As stated above, if both sides appear at fault, the report could do nothing or even backfire.

    As for how I handle things, well I honestly just don't care about such.
    Most people who do this get their kicks out of reactions or some other pointless feeling.
    So don't react and don't respond. Take away their fun.
    And if they continue to cause harassment outside of chat? Even easier to report them.
    I think its the not very often case.
    Since the person said is quite well known for doing so.
    It doesn't matter if that person is Jesus Christ. This thread is a violation of the forum rules (user harassment).

    It's a violation because you all acknowledge the person (target) being harassed as someone other than the op.


    As long as they don't name names in this public thread?
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Iyasenu wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Liyeta wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

    I agree it takes two people to argue, but it only takes one person to be nasty and attack someone for really no good reason; I've had it happen to me before because some random guy asked me out and I said no, and he felt the need to call me names I can't repeat here before blocking me. I've seen it happen to my friends who have been yelled at for not selling items at lower prices/not selling to people at all. But just because you don't know both sides of the story doesn't mean you should stand by and let bullying happen. If you see someone being attacked, then yes, as a bystander, you have the right to make a report, even if they don't know both sides.
    That's not what I'm saying at all. ~ More often than not; both sides are equally at fault (if one person can know who the op is referring to; what makes you think the person they're referencing doesn't see it too? - hence fanning the flames; aka trolling). You're the only person in control of your emotions. No one decides when you won't react, when you will react, or when you'll overreact. No one but you.

    Nilrem wrote: »
    Well, since I am also on Tarlach, I have a fair idea of who you are talking about.

    I say just collect proof of the harassment and throw it towards reports.
    Just try to help you and your friend keep under control during such.

    As stated above, if both sides appear at fault, the report could do nothing or even backfire.

    As for how I handle things, well I honestly just don't care about such.
    Most people who do this get their kicks out of reactions or some other pointless feeling.
    So don't react and don't respond. Take away their fun.
    And if they continue to cause harassment outside of chat? Even easier to report them.
    I think its the not very often case.
    Since the person said is quite well known for doing so.
    It doesn't matter if that person is Jesus Christ. This thread is a violation of the forum rules (user harassment).

    It's a violation because you all acknowledge the person (target) being harassed as someone other than the op.


    As long as they don't name names in this public thread?
    Oh yes! That totally nullifies the obvious harassment taking place here.

    This is no place for one-sided kangaroo court hearings (public or not).


  • LiyetaLiyeta
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Liyeta wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

    I agree it takes two people to argue, but it only takes one person to be nasty and attack someone for really no good reason; I've had it happen to me before because some random guy asked me out and I said no, and he felt the need to call me names I can't repeat here before blocking me. I've seen it happen to my friends who have been yelled at for not selling items at lower prices/not selling to people at all. But just because you don't know both sides of the story doesn't mean you should stand by and let bullying happen. If you see someone being attacked, then yes, as a bystander, you have the right to make a report, even if they don't know both sides.
    That's not what I'm saying at all. ~ More often than not; both sides are equally at fault (if one person can know who the op is referring to; what makes you think the person they're referencing doesn't see it too? - hence fanning the flames; aka trolling). You're the only person in control of your emotions. No one decides when you won't react, when you will react, or when you'll overreact. No one but you.

    Nilrem wrote: »
    Well, since I am also on Tarlach, I have a fair idea of who you are talking about.

    I say just collect proof of the harassment and throw it towards reports.
    Just try to help you and your friend keep under control during such.

    As stated above, if both sides appear at fault, the report could do nothing or even backfire.

    As for how I handle things, well I honestly just don't care about such.
    Most people who do this get their kicks out of reactions or some other pointless feeling.
    So don't react and don't respond. Take away their fun.
    And if they continue to cause harassment outside of chat? Even easier to report them.
    I think its the not very often case.
    Since the person said is quite well known for doing so.
    It doesn't matter if that person is Jesus Christ. This thread is a violation of the forum rules (user harassment).

    It's a violation because you all acknowledge the person (target) being harassed as someone other than the op.


    No its not a violation of forum rule since none of us are doing direct attack to the person nor op.

    Hmm now that i think of it, maybe we are not looking at the same rules. Mind quoting the rule that we break ?

    ParadoxLostSherri
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 29, 2017
    Liyeta wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Liyeta wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

    I agree it takes two people to argue, but it only takes one person to be nasty and attack someone for really no good reason; I've had it happen to me before because some random guy asked me out and I said no, and he felt the need to call me names I can't repeat here before blocking me. I've seen it happen to my friends who have been yelled at for not selling items at lower prices/not selling to people at all. But just because you don't know both sides of the story doesn't mean you should stand by and let bullying happen. If you see someone being attacked, then yes, as a bystander, you have the right to make a report, even if they don't know both sides.
    That's not what I'm saying at all. ~ More often than not; both sides are equally at fault (if one person can know who the op is referring to; what makes you think the person they're referencing doesn't see it too? - hence fanning the flames; aka trolling). You're the only person in control of your emotions. No one decides when you won't react, when you will react, or when you'll overreact. No one but you.

    Nilrem wrote: »
    Well, since I am also on Tarlach, I have a fair idea of who you are talking about.

    I say just collect proof of the harassment and throw it towards reports.
    Just try to help you and your friend keep under control during such.

    As stated above, if both sides appear at fault, the report could do nothing or even backfire.

    As for how I handle things, well I honestly just don't care about such.
    Most people who do this get their kicks out of reactions or some other pointless feeling.
    So don't react and don't respond. Take away their fun.
    And if they continue to cause harassment outside of chat? Even easier to report them.
    I think its the not very often case.
    Since the person said is quite well known for doing so.
    It doesn't matter if that person is Jesus Christ. This thread is a violation of the forum rules (user harassment).

    It's a violation because you all acknowledge the person (target) being harassed as someone other than the op.


    No its not a violation of forum rule since none of us are doing direct attack to the person nor op.

    Hmm now that i think of it, maybe we are not looking at the same rules. Mind quoting the rule that we break ?
    It's okay if you wish to pretend this thread is not referring to a specific person and that a number of you know who that person is. Including that person. It makes no difference to me either way. It is what it is. Harassment. ~ and I don't think you need me to point out what part of the rules that's covered under. The point you seem to be missing is that this person can come here and report this thread, and they'd be 100% in the right, because this discussion is about them. ~ Put the shoe on the other foot.

  • ParadoxLostParadoxLost
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Liyeta wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Liyeta wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    It takes two or more people to argue. There is no such thing as a one person argument (unless you're mentally ill, of course). I cannot (nor should anyone else) answer your question properly (or even legitimately) without knowing both sides of the story (there is no such thing as a one sided story). I am sure this person chose the other person for no reason at all, and I am sure you could have asked for this information in the form of a ticket or in private to a parent or a friend close-by; as opposed to in front of a public audience serving no purpose outside of fanning the flames.

    I agree it takes two people to argue, but it only takes one person to be nasty and attack someone for really no good reason; I've had it happen to me before because some random guy asked me out and I said no, and he felt the need to call me names I can't repeat here before blocking me. I've seen it happen to my friends who have been yelled at for not selling items at lower prices/not selling to people at all. But just because you don't know both sides of the story doesn't mean you should stand by and let bullying happen. If you see someone being attacked, then yes, as a bystander, you have the right to make a report, even if they don't know both sides.
    That's not what I'm saying at all. ~ More often than not; both sides are equally at fault (if one person can know who the op is referring to; what makes you think the person they're referencing doesn't see it too? - hence fanning the flames; aka trolling). You're the only person in control of your emotions. No one decides when you won't react, when you will react, or when you'll overreact. No one but you.

    Nilrem wrote: »
    Well, since I am also on Tarlach, I have a fair idea of who you are talking about.

    I say just collect proof of the harassment and throw it towards reports.
    Just try to help you and your friend keep under control during such.

    As stated above, if both sides appear at fault, the report could do nothing or even backfire.

    As for how I handle things, well I honestly just don't care about such.
    Most people who do this get their kicks out of reactions or some other pointless feeling.
    So don't react and don't respond. Take away their fun.
    And if they continue to cause harassment outside of chat? Even easier to report them.
    I think its the not very often case.
    Since the person said is quite well known for doing so.
    It doesn't matter if that person is Jesus Christ. This thread is a violation of the forum rules (user harassment).

    It's a violation because you all acknowledge the person (target) being harassed as someone other than the op.


    No its not a violation of forum rule since none of us are doing direct attack to the person nor op.

    Hmm now that i think of it, maybe we are not looking at the same rules. Mind quoting the rule that we break ?
    It's okay if you wish to pretend this thread is not referring to a specific person and that a number of you know who that person is. Including that person. It makes no difference to me either way. It is what it is. Harassment. ~ and I don't think you need me to point out what part of the rules that's covered under. The point you seem to be missing is that this person can come here and report this thread, and they'd be 100% in the right, because this discussion is about them. ~ Put the shoe on the other foot.

    This post breaks no rules. If it did you could have reported it yourself. So go ahead and be my guest. The report button should be somewhere at the bottom of the post.
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