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Best economy update ever(Auction House discussion)

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  • ErorservErorserv
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    Is anyone having a problem with the re-bid box? I want to re-bid a different number than is showing, but it will not let me move the cursor. The cursor firmly stays to the left at all times, making it so that if I want to put a radically different number, I must add another zero.

    So I try to change 1,000,000 to 1,500,000. But I can't move the cursor to change the zero to a 5. I can, however, make the number 11,000,000 because I can add another number to the beginning. This is....silly.

    Press ctrl-a to highlight the number and backspace it. Then enter a new number.
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  • WolfandWolfWolfandWolf
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    Is anyone having a problem with the re-bid box? I want to re-bid a different number than is showing, but it will not let me move the cursor. The cursor firmly stays to the left at all times, making it so that if I want to put a radically different number, I must add another zero.

    So I try to change 1,000,000 to 1,500,000. But I can't move the cursor to change the zero to a 5. I can, however, make the number 11,000,000 because I can add another number to the beginning. This is....silly.

    Press ctrl-a to highlight the number and backspace it. Then enter a new number.

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  • ArjuneArjune
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    edited April 8, 2018
    I think I was wrong about the seller being able to cancel an auction midway.... but if someone hits the buyout price it will tell you your bid failed and make you think the auction was actually canceled. that's the only way I can think of why people get the "bid failed" message :0

    So if there's an auction that has a very reasonable buyout price... might not be super wise to bid unless you really think no one will buyout
  • ChibisaiChibisai
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    edited April 8, 2018
    Arjune wrote: »
    I think I was wrong about the seller being able to cancel an auction midway.... but if someone hits the buyout price it will tell you your bid failed and make you think the auction was actually canceled. that's the only way I can think of why people get the "bid failed" message :0

    So if there's an auction that has a very reasonable buyout price... might not be super wise to bid unless you really think no one will buyout

    Yeah, the seller can't cancel once someone bids. It's really fair that way so the seller can't back off or change their mind and neither can the buyer.

    That would be the only reason your friend failed is if someone bought it for the buyout price or got outbidded
  • HellkaizerHellkaizer
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    Arjune wrote: »
    I think I was wrong about the seller being able to cancel an auction midway.... but if someone hits the buyout price it will tell you your bid failed and make you think the auction was actually canceled. that's the only way I can think of why people get the "bid failed" message :0

    So if there's an auction that has a very reasonable buyout price... might not be super wise to bid unless you really think no one will buyout

    That's what I like about the AH though, you can take risks to potentially earn more/save gold. I love this kind of thing in games, in runescape I make all my gold by playing the market, it's fun to me. I'm enjoying the AH here immensely because of this, and because you can't just decide you don't want to bid anymore you don't lose profits due to wishy washy people.
    Chibisai
  • ChibisaiChibisai
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    Hellkaizer wrote: »
    Arjune wrote: »
    I think I was wrong about the seller being able to cancel an auction midway.... but if someone hits the buyout price it will tell you your bid failed and make you think the auction was actually canceled. that's the only way I can think of why people get the "bid failed" message :0

    So if there's an auction that has a very reasonable buyout price... might not be super wise to bid unless you really think no one will buyout

    That's what I like about the AH though, you can take risks to potentially earn more/save gold. I love this kind of thing in games, in runescape I make all my gold by playing the market, it's fun to me. I'm enjoying the AH here immensely because of this, and because you can't just decide you don't want to bid anymore you don't lose profits due to wishy washy people.

    I'm actually liking the auction house now that I see more of it. I can sell offline, find things cheap that I want, get a price check if necessary without having to ask around, the buyers/sellers stay anonymous, don't have to wait more than 2 days at most if it's auction.
  • HellkaizerHellkaizer
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    Chibisai wrote: »
    Hellkaizer wrote: »
    Arjune wrote: »
    I think I was wrong about the seller being able to cancel an auction midway.... but if someone hits the buyout price it will tell you your bid failed and make you think the auction was actually canceled. that's the only way I can think of why people get the "bid failed" message :0

    So if there's an auction that has a very reasonable buyout price... might not be super wise to bid unless you really think no one will buyout

    That's what I like about the AH though, you can take risks to potentially earn more/save gold. I love this kind of thing in games, in runescape I make all my gold by playing the market, it's fun to me. I'm enjoying the AH here immensely because of this, and because you can't just decide you don't want to bid anymore you don't lose profits due to wishy washy people.

    I'm actually liking the auction house now that I see more of it. I can sell offline, find things cheap that I want, get a price check if necessary without having to ask around, the buyers/sellers stay anonymous, don't have to wait more than 2 days at most if it's auction.

    I think the anonymous part is most important to me. I get a lot of flak because I buy and resell stuff all the time. It's not my fault I'm willing to be more patient but get a better price, or that I know the market better than some.
  • RheyRhey
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    edited April 8, 2018
    Once all optimizations+bugs(hopefully) get stamped out...the cherry on the icing to finish this off would be to make it connect to other servers. One global AH would be the dream. Other sales options can be kept around for the domestic markets if people want.

    I'm praying super_hard 4 this 2 get implemented one day.

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    I'd never bring up server_merges anymore if it happens so.
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  • ArjuneArjune
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    Rhey wrote: »
    Once all optimizations+bugs(hopefully) get stamped out...the cherry on the icing to finish this off would be to make it connect to other servers. One global AH would be the dream. Other sales options can be kept around for the domestic markets if people want.

    I'm praying super_hard 4 this 2 get implemented one day.

    tenor.gif?itemid=8329872

    I don't think that could happen no matter how much you want it. Each server has its own market and there would be nothing stopping people from selling an item from 1 server to another server where that item is worth more, then setting up a cheap item at a high price to transfer the gold over. there'd be a lot of people abusing it to get super rich or to transfer all their gold /items to another server

  • RheyRhey
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    Arjune wrote: »
    Rhey wrote: »
    Once all optimizations+bugs(hopefully) get stamped out...the cherry on the icing to finish this off would be to make it connect to other servers. One global AH would be the dream. Other sales options can be kept around for the domestic markets if people want.

    I'm praying super_hard 4 this 2 get implemented one day.

    tenor.gif?itemid=8329872

    I don't think that could happen no matter how much you want it. Each server has its own market and there would be nothing stopping people from selling an item from 1 server to another server where that item is worth more, then setting up a cheap item at a high price to transfer the gold over. there'd be a lot of people abusing it to get super rich or to transfer all their gold /items to another server

    Let em if they wanna jump servers that way. Char_Progress & Pets(Medals shuld be disabled) will still remain behind. Not to mention the taxes will eat quite a chunk if ur tryna take millions of golds to another servers this way as well. I think it's fair enuf of a trade off. :)
    YangKoete
  • spamellaspamella
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    Arjune wrote: »
    Rhey wrote: »
    Once all optimizations+bugs(hopefully) get stamped out...the cherry on the icing to finish this off would be to make it connect to other servers. One global AH would be the dream. Other sales options can be kept around for the domestic markets if people want.

    I'm praying super_hard 4 this 2 get implemented one day.

    tenor.gif?itemid=8329872

    I don't think that could happen no matter how much you want it. Each server has its own market and there would be nothing stopping people from selling an item from 1 server to another server where that item is worth more, then setting up a cheap item at a high price to transfer the gold over. there'd be a lot of people abusing it to get super rich or to transfer all their gold /items to another server

    Except it won't be worth more on the other server if everything is in the same pot, because all of the items from the cheap server would show up for literally everyone. If anything it'll equalize the markets on all the servers. I'd be all for it.
  • JazmynJazmyn
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    edited April 8, 2018
    Is anyone having a problem with the re-bid box? I want to re-bid a different number than is showing, but it will not let me move the cursor. The cursor firmly stays to the left at all times, making it so that if I want to put a radically different number, I must add another zero.

    So I try to change 1,000,000 to 1,500,000. But I can't move the cursor to change the zero to a 5. I can, however, make the number 11,000,000 because I can add another number to the beginning. This is....silly.

    Ctrl + A and backspace worked for me. Nevermind, I see someone already saved you. xD


    On a side note, Ruairi has a whopping 11 total pages in housing right now.... yes... 11. 3 sellers.
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  • HellkaizerHellkaizer
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    edited April 9, 2018
    spamella wrote: »
    Arjune wrote: »
    Rhey wrote: »
    Once all optimizations+bugs(hopefully) get stamped out...the cherry on the icing to finish this off would be to make it connect to other servers. One global AH would be the dream. Other sales options can be kept around for the domestic markets if people want.

    I'm praying super_hard 4 this 2 get implemented one day.

    tenor.gif?itemid=8329872

    I don't think that could happen no matter how much you want it. Each server has its own market and there would be nothing stopping people from selling an item from 1 server to another server where that item is worth more, then setting up a cheap item at a high price to transfer the gold over. there'd be a lot of people abusing it to get super rich or to transfer all their gold /items to another server

    Except it won't be worth more on the other server if everything is in the same pot, because all of the items from the cheap server would show up for literally everyone. If anything it'll equalize the markets on all the servers. I'd be all for it.

    This would actually break the economy really hard. It would stabilize eventually but that would be chaos.
  • ArjuneArjune
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    edited April 9, 2018
    spamella wrote: »
    Except it won't be worth more on the other server if everything is in the same pot, because all of the items from the cheap server would show up for literally everyone. If anything it'll equalize the markets on all the servers. I'd be all for it.

    it won't be equalized instantly though, so people who are around when it first happens would take major advantage of it

    it's not gonna happen. ever

  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited April 9, 2018
    One of the problems with the Auction settings is that players are able to place the minimum bid, rather than raising it. This brings the auction process into an invisible regular price system. This means that if you want someone to raise from 5mil flat, they can place the 5mil minimum and buy your auction item without any visible bid placement notification.
  • ArjuneArjune
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    edited April 9, 2018
    yeah you probably shouldn't set the minimum bid to something you're not willing to sell it at
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  • WolfandWolfWolfandWolf
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    Jazmyn wrote: »
    Is anyone having a problem with the re-bid box? I want to re-bid a different number than is showing, but it will not let me move the cursor. The cursor firmly stays to the left at all times, making it so that if I want to put a radically different number, I must add another zero.

    So I try to change 1,000,000 to 1,500,000. But I can't move the cursor to change the zero to a 5. I can, however, make the number 11,000,000 because I can add another number to the beginning. This is....silly.

    Ctrl + A and backspace worked for me. Nevermind, I see someone already saved you. xD

    Yep!! But I do appreciate the attempt to help, thank you! <3
    Arjune wrote: »
    yeah you probably shouldn't set the minimum bid to something you're not willing to sell it at

    I've seen some pretty outrageous prices, but I've also seen some rare items whose minimum bid is 10 gold or something. And. Well. They can't honestly believe that bid is going to raise fast enough in three days to something that they'll like, can they?
  • MaiaMaia
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    edited April 9, 2018
    Auction house Mabinogi mobile app please.

    Add squires.

    Then I don't need to login anymore.
    PanTairiku
  • ChibisaiChibisai
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    edited April 9, 2018
    I've seen some pretty outrageous prices, but I've also seen some rare items whose minimum bid is 10 gold or something. And. Well. They can't honestly believe that bid is going to raise fast enough in three days to something that they'll like, can they?

    only if it's something people want the most... I've seen the Lovely Cupid 2nd title raise from 30m to 55m on the last 5 mins (it's not 10 gold minimum but it did raise fast enough :'D)

    But you're right, a lot of outrageous prices
  • HellkaizerHellkaizer
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    Chibisai wrote: »
    I've seen some pretty outrageous prices, but I've also seen some rare items whose minimum bid is 10 gold or something. And. Well. They can't honestly believe that bid is going to raise fast enough in three days to something that they'll like, can they?

    only if it's something people want the most... I've seen the Lovely Cupid 2nd title raise from 30m to 55m on the last 5 mins (it's not 10 gold minimum but it did raise fast enough :'D)

    But you're right, a lot of outrageous prices

    Just like AH's in any other mmo, the price doesn't really go anywhere until the last 5 or so mins.