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Get this lootbox out of my game, Senator Hawley?

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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited August 31, 2019
    More loot box updates by YongYea
    Disclaimer: Contains the F-Bomb, language, and display of a casino centric game unsuitable for children.


    Video by Inside Gaming
    Disclaimer: May contain language inappropriate for children.

    Video by Jim Sterling
    Disclaimer: May contain language inappropriate for children.

    (Wonder how long self regulation will last this time?)

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    August 7th FTC Transcript Links:
    https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/audio-video/video/inside-game-unlocking-consumer-issues-surrounding-loot-boxes-session-1
    https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/audio-video/video/inside-game-unlocking-consumer-issues-surrounding-loot-boxes-session-2
    Comment with FTC Transcript recaps under spoilers

    This case is done, folks! ESRB is guilty as all EA in BF2!
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited September 12, 2019
    *Edit* Added more news from the UK at the bottom.
    *Edit* Added another YongYea video at the bottom.

    More press coverage.
    Regulate loot boxes under gambling law and ban them from children, MPs say
    Article

    Sen. Hawley’s Bid to ‘Disrupt’ Big Tech
    Week old Article

    Meanwhile... another YongYea video.

    The NBA game so bad and bogged down with gambling that not even the press could resist covering it.
    NBA 2K20's loot box-y MyTeam mode even has faux gambling machines
    Article

    Number one meme out of 2019:
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    Reason why Nexon should be worried about how they handle gachapons:
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    Jim Sterling with the UK update:

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    YongYea with Bethesda's microtransaction problem:

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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    So is Lebron a UR gach character?
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited September 12, 2019
    So is Lebron a UR gach character?

    It's sad when companies think mixing the realms of reality with a fantasy world with gachapons is legal.
    Too bad they got caught and called out on.
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    So is Lebron a UR gach character?

    It's sad when companies think mixing the realms of reality with a fantasy world with gachapons is legal.
    Too bad they got caught and called out on.

    Well, in the real FIBA basketball world cup, US got eliminated by France yesterday. The team wasn't able to gach their S ranked and UR ranked players. xD
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited September 13, 2019
    More YongYea on the UK loot box update:


    Inside Gaming covers it as well:


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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited September 17, 2019
    Jim Sterling, with a strange turn of events in England:


    Meanwhile more PEGI news from YongYea:


    Youtuber Fancy Action Now! covers the loot box situation:
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    It's funny how big gaming companies tries to deny their gachas and other microtransactions by saying that it's a "surprise machanics" and other dumb excuses.
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Greta wrote: »
    It's funny how big gaming companies tries to deny their gachas and other microtransactions by saying that it's a "surprise machanics" and other dumb excuses.

    Gacha money spent on lawyers for these type of scenarios.
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited September 23, 2019
    Greta wrote: »
    It's funny how big gaming companies tries to deny their gachas and other microtransactions by saying that it's a "surprise machanics" and other dumb excuses.

    Gacha money spent on lawyers for these type of scenarios.

    Money well spent after this legislation comes down on their "un-modifiable" sale models like hellfire, I'd presume.
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    Article from Gamesindustry.biz discussing virtual currency, and probability for retirement of the model.

    TechTheLead covers the UK Committee call for Loot Box legislation in this Article.

    YongYea covers a Runescape player with Loot Box addiction:


    Youtuber Jim Sterling explains the ESA
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited October 2, 2019
    Horray, new month, another double post.

    I think this entails a word of advisory for Nexon to continue to encourage in game activity, rather than sell the pay to save time stuff.


    Forgot Jim Sterling's video last week


    Meanwhile, at Valve...
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited October 11, 2019
    Ten days later... and Konami makes Jim Sterling laugh.


    BBC News covers the Loot Box Debate:
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited October 15, 2019
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    Hey! Hey! Hey, Kensa! Hold my beer so I can do a spit take!
    A world record has been made:


  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Hey! Hey! Hey, Kensa! Hold my beer so I can do a spit take!
    A world record has been made:


    I'm not watching the vid. What was the duration of the spending of that amount of greenbacks?
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited October 15, 2019
    I'm not watching the vid. What was the duration of the spending of that amount of greenbacks?
    I'm not sure. There's a lot of articles, but it appears to be a total spending of a single user in an interview made by the developers of said game.
    TRANSFORMERS: Earth Wars appears to be a three year old game.
    So if you were to divide 150k by 1095 days, we would get... 136.986301
    Presumably that would take approximately $137 per day of gameplay for the duration of three years, if he started from launch.
    In a week, that's easily under $1k at $959. (Not counting any impulse sales.)

  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    I'm not watching the vid. What was the duration of the spending of that amount of greenbacks?
    I'm not sure. There's a lot of articles, but it appears to be a total spending of a single user in an interview made by the developers of said game.
    TRANSFORMERS: Earth Wars appears to be a three year old game.
    So if you were to divide 150k by 1095 days, we would get... 136.986301
    Presumably that would take approximately $137 per day of gameplay for the duration of three years, if he started from launch.
    In a week, that's easily under $1k at $959. (Not counting any impulse sales.)

    Well, if it makes the person happy and they can afford it, it shouldn't an issue should it?
    But, like propaganda videos, come out with big splashy numbers and create an issue out of nothing.
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited October 15, 2019
    Well, if it makes the person happy and they can afford it, it shouldn't an issue should it?
    But, like propaganda videos, come out with big splashy numbers and create an issue out of nothing.

    Even if someone can afford spending $150k on a single videogame, it still doesn't change the fact that this was a game designed to make money off of saving time from cooldowns. That's the part that has everyone upset about loot boxes and microtransactions.
    It's because this is company abuse of a design flaw so they can squeeze more money. (They could just reduce cooldown times, but didn't.)
    Imagine if Nexon had tied a NX cost to skill cooldowns. (Which they would never do, because we have skills that reset some skill cooldowns.)
    Wouldn't that be like allowing users to cheat in a game for what appears to be chump change, only for that change to become far more than presented at endgame?
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    The game in question, nothing to see here but a base builder.
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Well, if it makes the person happy and they can afford it, it shouldn't an issue should it?
    But, like propaganda videos, come out with big splashy numbers and create an issue out of nothing.

    Even if someone can afford spending $150k on a single videogame, it still doesn't change the fact that this was a game designed to make money off of saving time from cooldowns. That's the part that has everyone upset about loot boxes and microtransactions.
    It's because this is company abuse of a design flaw so they can squeeze more money. (They could just reduce cooldown times, but didn't.)
    Imagine if Nexon had tied a NX cost to skill cooldowns. (Which they would never do, because we have skills that reset some skill cooldowns.)
    Wouldn't that be like allowing users to cheat in a game for what appears to be chump change, only for that change to become far more than presented at endgame?
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    The game in question, nothing to see here but a base builder.
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    Consumers blaming a business for ripping them off when they themselves are not able to make intelligent marketplace choices is kinda lame.
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  • JulieJulie
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    edited October 15, 2019
    The triple A industry has been mostly taking advantage of addictive features that can give them money quick while consistently delivering bad products at $60 + dlc and everything else you can stack on it. People may be in the wrong for wanting government regulation for loot boxes, but the industry has it coming for what it has done, the ESRB has also been paid off by them and refuses to do it's job right as well. People used to defend these companies from bad press and government regulations, now they wont and basically insist the government to regulate them.

    What can I say? in a way the industry has backstabbed those it served, they dont have their defenses like they used to because of that.
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    People have time to complain and call for regulation of the gaming industry, but allows Big Pharma and Insurance to do as they please. Corrupt politicians.
    Darkpixie99