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For the sake of this game, there should be a server merge OR AT LEAST have something we can BUY to transfer our characters/pets to another server if the server merge is to hard to do!!! PLEASE!!!!!
I love this game because there are no other games out there like it and it saddens me to see it go down the drain because NA won't do anything about the player base and are too focused on Gachas/making money. If they did this, I guarantee it would bring more players/money!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE..ibegyou
You're one of the few that feel this way. A server merge doesn't always MEAN that it's about to die. Look at how much people are still spending on this game. The point of the merge isn't to consolidate server space and save money, it's for US. The community. It's for us to be able to play with MORE people. MMO. MMO. MMO.
Look at the server stats on the wiki for the population %. Even at the peak of each server combined, it wouldn't even fill 75% of a single server.
the population on Alexina has slowly dropped over the years. only the player market has stayed very active as the shopping channel almost always has busy or full status. maybe when Alexina was really new all the channels were full but these days all the channels except channel 1 say normal and two or three of the other channels are very empty. so your statement earlier is not accurate. last time Alexina was super full was when the gms were visiting servers a few months ago and even that only filled 2 or 3 channels at the most. Alexina does have the largest population however all 7 channels have not been busy or full at once in the past 3 years and it feels like the poplulation is slowly getting worst.
But having high population during certain events for small amounts of time throughout the year is not the same as being populated. This just means that it has a population spike because of certain things happening. The original 3 servers are very much dead in terms of % of the servers filled. Although, I still can find a lot of people doing stuff on Ruairi, it still would be nice to have a much larger group. The majority of people are arguing for a server merge for the feel of the game BEFORE Alexina was even created. I remember when the game was very much busy, probably at least 50% full Ruairi you know?
Having such a small population makes it harder to farm lots of mats and items such as the new stuff for giants, the celtic mats, and the Soluna blade, etc. Having fewer people on a server farming for these mats makes the items less common in general. It makes it harder for any "end game" items to actually be out in the public.
Your justification of having your server packed during these events is selfish. Very selfish. Try taking into consideration the population of the other servers, and those who are not as lucky to have their server "packed to the hilt" during events, as much as we'd like to see that.
I want to see a lot of people gathered everywhere. I want it to be hard to find a place to set up shop. There are more places than just Belvast. Remember when Tir even had a lot of shops? And Dunbarton did? That's what I want to come back.
you are saying every channel on Alexina has a busy or full status quite often even these days. that is completely false, yes the population does rise when we get interesting game updates or events however Alexina server has not reached it's limit or gotten near full for a long time. over the years some channels have become more empty even during the day. I play mabi for about 8 hours almost every day and check the channel status quite often and the only one busy or full is usually channel 1. once or twice earlier this year channel 1 was full and channel 2 was busy however this far from all the channels being busy or full very often like you claim. usually these days channel 1 stays full which is good but the other channels have lost some players. a few big guilds have vanished and some areas are slightly less populated in just this year.
I agree, it would be nice to have a server full of lots of players again. there are way more then two towns to sell stuff in but almost all personal shops are in Dunbarton and Belvast. all the servers are slowly suffering from losing players and Alexina is no exception. Alexina may still be very active but it is far from being as great as it once was. back when Alexina was new you could find players in almost every town of the game and players would randomly use the party board and do dungeon runs. all the servers could improve from a server merge and it unfair to leave any server out.
Why are you arguing here if it ain't going to change anything?
If people can't login, that's not because server is too populated, it's because server sucks. It's known fact that mabinogi server is unstable. Population isn't problem. Mabinogi won't be overpopulated even if Mari,Ruairi, Tarlarch all gets merged together. Besides, why would they not increase server capacity if they put 3 servers in one.
And suggesting reduction of channel is just blatant ignorant. First, there aren't that much people in other channels, you won't even see difference in population even if channels are reduced to 1. Second, people are going to suffer from lack of farming space, i.e Hillwen and Shyllien. Also, are you asking those servers to have only one dragon at a time? How ignorant....
If you're so tired of this topic, why don't you just ignore this thread? Seriously, it's just this thread.
People from Alexina shouldn't complain about seeing this thread, because it is not their problem. It's about servers that suffer from lack of population. Even if they decide to take action, Alexina won't be affected because they are fine. If it make you feel uncomfortable and tired, just ignore it.
Just because people don't agree with you it does not drop value of your opinion. Give them reasons why you disagree instead of 'No, I don't want to see this thread, I just don't like seeing it, other MMOs died because of server merge(where's examples?Also does it fit in mabi's case, where 3 servers are underpopulated?),they're not going to do it so don't bother(this is literally why people keep suggesting), it's been going on since 2009 blah blah' (comes from Alexina player, which definetly does not need server merge)
No, you can post even if you don't like my opinion. But 'I just don't like seeing this thread' isn't an opinion. What I wrote above meant, if you don't play underpopulated servers, then don't speak for them just because you don't like seeing server merge thread.
Your opinion is what? Game is going to die if they merge servers, b/c people won't be able to login due to overpopulation? Since when mabi was that populated? Are they really not going to increase server capacity, when they are merging 3~2 servers to one, and only have to keep 2~3 servers up instead of 4? From what I see, one of reason why people quit is because they literally cannot do anything b/c population being small. Maybe you don't understand this because you're in Alexina. Do you even consider the fact that 'having underpopulated server sucks?' Most people don't even suggest other servers than Alexina for newbies because 'other servers suck due to population' 'Other 3 servers are "empty"' I'm pretty sure 90% of newbies pick Alexina as their server. Good for them, they don't have to suffer, but in other servers. more people leave than new people join or come back.
Also you gave pretty poor solution : 'reduce all channel to 1', which I stated above, very,very poor solution. At least before suggesting something, think about cons? You know, there are still 'some' people who play there.
Again. if you just don't like the thread,without any logic, just don't view it. End of story. I targeted you because your "opinion (supposedly)" had no logic in it and just a long essay of crying "I don't like this thread, please STOOOOOP!"
Just because forum record look like new, doesn't mean it's an alt. Wish old forums were alive to prove. I like to look around, but I post very few because I only post about something that disturbs me. I wasn't 'attacking' you(Did I insult you or something?), and I'm sorry if I was offending you. Was it too harsh that it made you think 'it's an alt to attack me'? Nope, I'm not here to 'attack you',I personally didn't like your reasons so I wrote post against it. My posts came out not so kindly worded, but if you look at yours, yours isn't nice either. I am not going to continue discussion with you because you seem like you'd like to stop, and I don't have anything to send as private message either.
It's hard to measure server population considering offline players because 1)they could be inactive for god knows when, you'd have to exclude people who has been offline for 5+ months. 2) They could be alts with purpose of event exploit. (Who only logs in for event rewards like hot time event).
I don't think you're really taking into consideration what anyone else says. I have no idea why you think that the game is populated enough, but it isn't.
Also, I said if you follow the wiki and check at PEAK TIMES the server population. I'm tired of arguing with someone that isn't important enough to do anything about it anyways. I highly doubt anyone from Nexon even reads or cares about these forums, just like they obviously don't care about us and what the majority of people want.
Like I said before, I don't understand why you are so against a server merge. You are literally fighting to NOT have one. Are you worried your name will be taken? Or that you will lose everything? Even if they decided to do a server merge, I doubt anything would be lost (aside from the naming conflict -- which could just be : give the oldest character who is active within like 30-60 days or so priority for the name).
Regardless, it seems that you're playing a different Mabinogi than everyone else.
And you must not be reading everything either. I never once said the server stats WHEN YOU MAKE A CHARACTER. I only ever referenced to the wiki measurements which change as the population and server status changes. I stated if you follow the server measurements at peak times.
And no, I didn't go back and read through all the other messages, especially yours. Because at this point I don't give a .
Wouldn't it be nice to see shops everywhere? Sometimes having to CC to 1 is a terrible thing to do and even sometimes you cannot as it is full. Having those shops spill out to Ch 2 and 3 etc... would make it that much more intriguing to go shopping cause you never know what you will find.... on any channel.
Excuse me whilst I read through all this. . .
Anyone that knows me from my behavior on the previous forum knows that me and Hardmuscle don't agree. (Heck, we were even "shipped" together once, for being so against each other).
However, I agree with Hard. A server merge is a sign of desperation.
What a lot of you pro-merger people seem to have forgotten is that this is Mabinogi and Nexon. Mabinogi, the game that runs on an engine literally no one outside of the game has even HEARD of (in comparison to, say, Valve's Source Engine, which many people who have never touched a Valve game knows about (Vindictus runs on Source Engine 1)). Remember what happened when Pioneers of Iria (Generations 4, 5, and 6) were added? The game was down for three days straight. Generation 9? Took the game down for over a day. I SHUDDER to think of what disastrous occurences would happen with a server merge; I'd be surprised if ANY data survived that, looking back on Nexon's track record. As for devCAT, all of the people who originally made the Pleione engine no longer work at devCAT.
Crossx2, it doesn't matter how you felt your server was, you abandoned it; I see enough people talk to see that Ruairi still has life, and I can see that WITHOUT logging onto the Ruairi server. Tarlach has a few very active guilds (one coincidentally named Active).
As for the reason why people leave, there are MANY reasons; toxic communities (like Alexina), long dry spells of no significant updates (which have happened from time to time), or simply losing interest (its possible). I know a few Alexinians who would ditch Alexina like a poisonous rash for servers like Tarlach. More people =/= a better experience 100% of the time.
I see where you're going with that, but I personally don't like having to channel hop to check out the shops in the plazas. Makes it that more tedious haha.
I don't think the engine would affect how a server merge would go. The maintenance time of a merge would definitely be fairly long compared to the norm, but if people want it and Nexon decides we need it I won't mind that. If they manage to mess up server data, they'd just roll back to a server-data-state made prior to the maintenance (a rollback point which would need to be made before they perform a merge maintenance).
1. It seems people are forcing the ideology of this thread down our throats. They think only about themselves or their server on this topic. Even then, people on their servers are also bound to disagree, sooo..
2. I rather not be forced to merge servers and deal with much more people. I actually like having a smaller amount of population. If I wanted/needed others, I would simply change to channel 2 (Mari's busier channel)
3. Although not confirmed this would happen, I don't want to lose a single thing I've earned throughout the years I have been playing Mabi.
4. I'm worried about my computer and internet. I'm lucky enough that I can handle a busy Belvast on Ch 2 Mari. I'd rather not bother with anything more than that, thanks.
5. Our economy is already all over the place. -_-
As somebody from Mari, I'm also against this. Don't speak for the whole population of Mari OR the other servers!
or make game more solo-player friendly
or start providing server transfer services so people that don't like their servers can move
You can report me, I honestly don't care.
But anyways, I understand where you're coming from with all of your points. However, you should try to understand where we are coming from as well with our servers. Having half the active population of Alexina, it's very sad. It is desperation at this point, tbh.
Mabinogi is not in the best state right now, and it hasn't been for a while. I personally think a merge would bring some life back into the game itself. That's what I care more about: the atmosphere like it used to be.
You make it seem like they're going to delete all inactive accounts.
If those 'offline' accounts still plays then eventually they'll be on active players meter. Calculating average active player % for a month would be fair.
As you say 'earth isn't flat' so there's very rare chance that 'all the players are going to login all at once and overpopulate the server' and that's why I want to follow the active players meter.
No one said your opinion doesn't matter; and I did read all of your other points(not counting inactive players, merging channels, etc)and commented them, but you're the one who keep saying 'This thread is pointless because it's been officially denied,it's been going on since 2009 and it needs to stop' which is....you're denying other people's opinion yourself. I said don't view this thread if you hate it for no logical reason.
What kind of internet/computer do you have if you can barely handle that....?
Desperation is why this thread exists. Also more people leave then people join(for various reason you stated), so community is bound to decline...
Merging has nothing to do with engine, but adding contents is. Those incidents seem like they happened long time ago- and I rather not judge them with something happened that long ago.
A lot of people don't know this but...DevCAT no longer even takes care of mabi since god knows when. However they successfully did server merge without DevCAT, even at korea where population is much bigger than ours.