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  • How to Solve Inflation, But Not Really

    Dismissal post.

    I haven't posted in the Discord since 2019. Perform a search in it and you still won't find me using that word in any context after that period and probably good amount of time before.

    The "Bugle Wars" have never mentioned any such thing, because I don't run content with anyone except a few people (whom I do not consider "leeches") and none of them use bugles. I occasionally drop into a random party to do a "fun" run (and those are few and far in-between, resulting in pleasant runs if no one decides to activate their sociopathic tendencies and insult me out of the random blue) and none of them use bugles, either. Whomever I allegedly "war" against as "leeches" isn't anyone who actively runs content with me to be a target of them, so there logically is no reason to mention "leeching" in any of my bugles as I don't often play with anyone else.

    It was obvious since your first post that you're just here to stir up some drama by attacking people on unrelated things (while simultaneously claiming to have had no interaction with me in-game), provide no evidence for the claims, dodge any accountability for your false accusations, and , which is why I've refused to actually address anything you've said regarding the topic after my second response: you're not here for a casual conversation; and turn this into a mudslinging contest for a low form of entertainment. The conversation was going very well up until you arrived.

    I specifically labeled my future responses as clarification posts, to signify my loss of interest; I even officially stated that you would have the last word on this subject. You consistently slip in these ad hominem attacks on my character and when called out, you lie, fabricate circumstance, or gaslight to pretend it didn't happen and I just don't care to deal with it. I don't have time for this.
    Alright, I re-read most of this thread, and here are my conclusions.

    It seems I confused you for someone else. That mention of discord and bugles was my indirect way of asking if you were that person (and poking fun at that person, if indeed you were them), and you confirmed that you are not. People use similar names on the internet, you know? This assumption was a mistake on my part, and I apologize for it.

    However, that assumption was only the basis of one minor supporting claim (specifically, that you dislike leeches), if you can even call it that. And you later confirmed it as correct anyway. As I said, I was primarily responding to what you've said in this thread, the entire time.

    You can assume that this is not the case if you want to; but to that, I'd say that you don't know me, you don't know what I'm thinking, and this (interpretation of and/or response to, what I'm saying) is a roundabout attempt at character assassination - basically what you keep saying, in case you missed it. It goes both ways. The fact that you claimed so first, does not make you immune to the approach; in fact, to me it appears that you were fishing for opportunities to make such claims the entire time. Why is it gaslighting when I point out what I perceive as your offenses against me, but not when you do so?

    You cannot just label your posts 'clarification' or 'dismissal' and expect me not to reply, when in those posts you continue to make claims about me and responses to my points (when convenient).

    Your claims:
    "you're just here to stir up some drama by attacking people on unrelated things" - All that I talked about, was based on what you've said in this thread, except for one minor instance, which has been addressed already. Had you not included the last part, I might've agreed with you; though even in that case, the word 'drama' is a bit too vague for me, and implies personal conflict. I just wanted to debate; but I didn't count on you taking everything I said personally, and sucking all of the fun out of it.

    "provide no evidence for the claims" - Again, what claims? Any claims I made about you were pertinent to the subject, and were only specific assumptions about what you might think about certain things being discussed - and each was made in an obvious, upfront way, so as to invite you to clarify, without any attachment to any other point I made. An honest opponent would have either clarified their position, or ignored the point. You, on the other hand, claimed that, because I'd made a claim about what you thought on the subject, I was making claims of a personal nature and passing them off as arguments (ad hominem). Since when are ones thoughts on a subject, not pertinent to ones position on the subject?

    Here's the definition of ad hominem, by the way. Might as well get any lingering semantic issues out of the way:
    ad ho·mi·nem
    /ˌad ˈhämənəm/
    adjective
    adjective: ad hominem

    (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

    "dodge any accountability for your false accusations" - I have acknowledged and defended everything you've taken issue with.

    "drag my reputation through the mud to proclaim some sort of intellectual or moral superiority"/"you're here to derail and to grandstand" - I dunno about that 'drag your reputation through the mud' part, and I wouldn't say I was here to derail either. Those underlined parts do sound about right though. =3=; Who doesn't grandstand? This is a public forum; if you're saying anything of substance, chances are you're doing one of those things - and it's FUN every now and then. I can show some examples of you doing the same thing, here and in other (recent) threads, if you'd like.

    "turn this into a mudslinging contest for a low form of entertainment" - Mudlsinging contest? As I said, I never intended to attack you personally. You made it personal, at every turn. low form of entertainment?...I can't deny that one.

    "you lie, fabricate circumstance" - Not to 'bait you into replying', but you show me an instance where I lied, and I'll almost certainly show you an instance where you misinterpreted what I said. Or where I made an honest mistake. I think it's funny that I dangle the slightest hope that I made a blatant lie, in front of you, and you immediately jumped on it. Why would I claim that you did things that I know you're going to deny, AND which are supposedly verifiable? Do you think I'm that stupid? Would it be 'ad hominem' if you answered that?

    I could remove any parts of my posts that could be construed as personal attacks (I may do so, since the parts of my posts that you take issue with are all preserved as quotes in your posts), and most of the substance would remain, whereas if I removed the parts of your posts claiming that I've done so (attacking my character, by claiming that all I've done is attacked yours), there would be little-to-nothing left of every reply after your first. Who is truly using ad hominem here?

    One last thing: It looks like you either see enemies everywhere, or rely on making anyone who disagrees with you look like someone preying on your personal feelings about your past. I can't actually tell which one is true, but I advise you to avoid drawing attention to the fact that you have personal stake in a topic, if you don't want to talk about the personal aspects. The closest I came to saying anything truly personal about you, was "I know you probably take it personally that I have a problem with people who did this", in my first post, which is not an ad hominem AND which you casually brushed off - a reasonable reaction. Did you think crying 'ad hominem' could keep me from mentioning anything like that anyway, if I'd wanted to? And even if I had brought up personal details of yours, who would've cared? Many players use alts to get extra chests nowadays - I'm probably in the minority here. If you had a genuine personal issue related to this discussion other than a possible personal use of alts for personal gain, then I have no clue what it even could have been.
    Sherri
  • Old items updated/talents/vikings/necromancy

    Silly people. Chainslash was the mabi version of 'necromancy'. Feed off the bad vibes of others and put it to your own use, sacrifice your HP to use a skill, edgy aesthetic, OP for no good reason... It's got half the tropes right there - which means it embodies necromancy entirely, by the standards of our devs.

    As for vikings... we have those two fishing boat people. They're basically vikings.
    Bronzebreak
  • Possible Elf Rework Soon?

    To my knowledge, there is no way for a human to achieve the magnum cooldown an elf has. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about this. Elves have a higher maximum DPS with magnum.

    I don't know if you meant to insinuate this, but the bonus aim speed from Ranged Attack does not influence Magnum or Crash shot. I think it does affect AR, SS, and Mirage Missile though, in addition to Ranged Attack itself.

    Elven ranged attack is superior to Human ranged attack, on paper. Two arrows per shot means much more damage, and the ability to run while aiming is neat. These advantages are well worth the lower aiming speed and bonus damage, IMO.
    But elf lag is a thing. It doesn't happen all the time, but that delay is annoying enough that I avoid using ranged attack in favor of mirage missile most of the time.

    Human archers have more safety and consistency - Elven archers have more damage potential and some extra utility. I wouldn't say either is 'best', but that's mostly because we're so laggy over here and the ease of AR really helps with that. If lag weren't a thing, I'm sure most people would consider elves the best. Most people who bother with archery probably do already.

    An AoE DoT (which can kill) and slow (stacks with celestial spike)? Mirage Missile is underrated, but since the meta is one-shotting everything, I can see why people would ignore it. When you can't one-shot, it's extremely helpful. And the damage scales with dex now.

    Final shot is good. Could be better. As someone who doesn't use reforges or have any weapons with significant erg levels, I think archery should be more like it is with final shot (in terms of aim speed), than as it is now, and final shot should be like final shot+ vision of ladeca (or at least like Vision of Ladeca). Provided something like this happens, Vision should be deleted.

    I'm glad you mentioned the part about Magnum and Crash Shot being the only skills that matter. I think that's the crux of the problem with archery. It's hard to balance a talent that has you essentially spamming smash at range with a relatively short animation lock. I like archery, but at times it seems kinda lame that it's essentially just magnum spam (as an elf). However, anything less won't come close to competing with other forms of combat.

    Ideally, they'd lower the damage of magnum, speed it up in return, add some benefit to using the other skills, and increase the damage of ranged skills overall, provided some condition(s) is(are) met. I have a few ideas for this, but I'm sure there are many ways it could be done. IMO, all of the older talents could use this treatment. Delete or rework their most OP components (and ideally bloat components too - mostly for close combat, this part), give them 'goals' to achieve in combat that make use of their basic lesser-used components and empower their combat ability temporarily, and nerf or delete everything that makes these moot, OP, or otherwise too difficult to manage (for the devs). Also, maybe rework some stats and even upgrades/enchants.

    Bam - combat is engaging again, and the old talents can be stronger without adding random power creep.

    ...But, nothing like this is ever going to happen, and certainly not for archery. Stuff is too good in SK, land of 0 lag. Also, people hate nerfs.
    Bronzebreak
  • [EVENT] Study Event

    Helsa wrote: »
    Yet another HS prop that really ought be in-doors. Has Nexon forgotten that they gave us our HS houses?

    They haven't forgotten; it's just that the HS houses are not actually meant to be used as houses. They're supposed to be sweatshops. If they were houses, they'd be stepping on the toes of the Housing Houses we already have.

    ...Which have been reduced to irrelevancy and mostly abandoned anyway.

    Iunno.
    Kensamaofmari
  • Rest: Collection & Option to manage the Chair

    Dedicating part of the Dressing Room to Chairs is a good idea. Chairs are a purely fashionogi item that have no other anyway, so there's no reason not to do this.

    The part about adding a manage button to the rest skill is unnecessary. They could add an equip slot for chairs, which I think would be simpler and more reasonable, but I don't think we need even this. Just having a place to collect chairs so they aren't clogging up inventories would be great.
    BronzebreakMusicat